13 replies to this topic

[Darian DelFord]

Have not seen a thread on this but can we please get Base Cap disabled during assault mode. I do not understand why people still do this. The funny thing is its not the lights that usually do it now, its the mediums.

[Sigifrid]

It is the primary objective of the game mode. The removal of rewards for it are only temporary.

[Darian DelFord]

Sigifrid, on 26 December 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

It is the primary objective of the game mode. The removal of rewards for it are only temporary.

Ahhhh then I mis-understood the name... Course we do not have a base to assault per say. Just a whatever the hell that thing is.

[mattkachu]

he's kidding right? not seen any threads like this? maybe he's in the forum for the wrong game.

If you want TDM, please play conquest.

[Stoindrae]

mattkachu, on 26 December 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

If you want TDM, please play conquest.

I am confused by your response... and I think it's because you have it bassackwards...

Assault: 5,000 per kill... 7,500 per assist ... win via base capture = 0 ------> Kill Mechs

Conquest: 2,500 per kill ... 3,750 per assist ... win via base capture = 18,750 ------> Capture Bases

[Mystere]

Darian DelFord, on 26 December 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

Have not seen a thread on this ...

You must not have looked hard.

In any case, here is a history lesson for you on "assault".

(My apologies in advance to those who have already seen this. But, I just can't help myself with all this crying about this particular game mode.)

[mattkachu]

Stoindrae, on 26 December 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

I am confused by your response... and I think it's because you have it bassackwards...

Assault: 5,000 per kill... 7,500 per assist ... win via base capture = 0 ------> Kill Mechs

Conquest: 2,500 per kill ... 3,750 per assist ... win via base capture = 18,750 ------> Capture Bases

Wha? You're taking it too literally. Sure its more lucrative to kill on assault, but base caps happen more frequently. I have yet to see a single resource victory in conquest. As such, like i said, its like a TDM.

Thats how the game modes are played. It has nothing to do with c-bills or xp. Peo0ple will always like to do objectives, and assault is easier to cap the base than conquest get 750 resources.

The OP was complaining about ninja caps, so if he plays conquest, he can have a good fight every time.

Edited by mattkachu, 28 December 2012 - 12:44 PM.

[Tarman]

Oh jiminy, another one of these. Right now, sorry to say, TDM does not exist as a mode. Asking people to stop playing the current game with the objectives that are a part of the current game is just silly. You're asking people to stop scoring goals in hockey because you want to have more fistfights. Please just ask to ADD another mode for TDM; stop trying to rip the pieces off the two modes we already have.

[Corvus Antaka]

It's stilla win if you basecap and sometimes the best strategy simply due to positioning. Sucks that PGI nurfed income, hopefully in the future income will return and they will instead greatly increase the timer to no more than 2 mech cap speed so that it becomes a riskier & more strategic proposition.

[Davers]

Base capping is still worth extra exp though. ending each game with a cap is still the best way to grind out a chassis.

[Stoindrae]

mattkachu, on 26 December 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

Wha? You're taking it too literally. Sure its more lucrative to kill on assault, but base caps happen more frequently. I have yet to see a single resource victory in conquest. As such, like i said, its like a TDM.

Thats how the game modes are played. It has nothing to do with c-bills or xp. Peo0ple will always like to do objectives, and assault is easier to cap the base than conquest get 750 resources.

The OP was complaining about ninja caps, so if he plays conquest, he can have a good fight every time.

Well... that was kind of the point of my post ... "most people" are doing it wrong based on the current incentives... and it's irritating and I don't understand why this is so difficult of a concept to grasp.

As it is right now: You SHOULD kill 8 on Assault .. and you SHOULD try to get 750 resources on Conquest ... but too many are not understanding this.. and cutting short the c-bill/exp gains for themselves and their team.

Just because it's "common" doesn't mean it's best.

[Mystere]

This is becoming really silly.

If you want TDM, ask PGI for TDM. But, don't force people to play assault the way you want them to.

Heck, let's even forget about TDM and just go straight for a 16+ winner-take-all last-man-standing mode with full repair and rearm costs.

[Tarman]

Stoindrae, on 26 December 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

Well... that was kind of the point of my post ... "most people" are doing it wrong based on the current incentives... and it's irritating and I don't understand why this is so difficult of a concept to grasp.

As it is right now: You SHOULD kill 8 on Assault .. and you SHOULD try to get 750 resources on Conquest ... but too many are not understanding this.. and cutting short the c-bill/exp gains for themselves and their team.

Just because it's "common" doesn't mean it's best.

Just because it's "best" doesn't mean it's the most fun for everybody, especially if your definition of "best" is "maximum cashrake". How can having fun and winning a match be "doing it wrong"? That makes zero sense. It's not like there's only one way to have fun in this game. "Stop capping, you're having fun the wrong way man!"

Personally the victory is more fun to me. Whether we win by mass murder or sneaky maneuver is irrelevant. How much fake cash I rake in is irrelevant. If I live or die is irrelevant, if said death helped contribute to the win. In games with battles, I like to win the battles. Prizes for winning such battles are gravy.

[Sandslice]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 26 December 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

It's stilla win if you basecap and sometimes the best strategy simply due to positioning. Sucks that PGI nurfed income, hopefully in the future income will return and they will instead greatly increase the timer to no more than 2 mech cap speed so that it becomes a riskier & more strategic proposition.

It's not just that they nerfed income. If all eight of your team members walk into enemy fire with white flags raised, accepting death without ever firing a shot, you'll walk away with the same cbills (but less exp) than if you cap without doing anything else. For fulfilling a victory condition, that is sixteen levels beyond screwed up.